The post on the disturbances generated by the tests of jamtaba has been removed!


by whom and by what demand?
I still go for a grumpy, but there is no objective opinion about the inconvenience experienced with jamtaba! Then leave to displease
By the time the post was removed Mr.Gaz intervened to me on the lounge.
I quote on 09/18/2017
Gaz@lounge: Bilos, do you not appreciate the time and effort the community is putting into enhancing the Ninjam experience?
Bilos@81.53.31.x : Yes I don’t appreciate that! A lot of test from Elieser and users making a lot of perturbation on servers; Enough !
Chat blocked, random disconnections, levels of users jamtaba to low (-25dB) I seem to loud (-12dB). Enough !

Gaz@lounge: It's part of the community
Bilos@81.53.31.x : I am part of comunity and I said Jamtaba must be developp on Intranet Platform please like professional.
I program myself a lot of time developing my skills so as not to be interrupted by problems by software developed amateurly (more I don't use it)

Gaz@lounge: You know how much time that would take
Gaz@lounge: You need a user base for that sort of thing
Bilos@81.53.31.x : I'm here to play music not for talking software and parameters all time ☹
There are dedicate forum for that!

Gaz@lounge: your mean serious musician
Gaz@lounge: there's no such thing as a real musician
at the same time : peter@32.209.43.x I keep crashing with this latest download
Bilos@81.53.31.x : I offer my knowledge of scale harmony and culture of great music. Neoclassical, Classical, Pop, Gypsy swing, Bossa.

Conclusion:
Mr.Gaz and and many users love the new gadgets and I remain a grumpy to your eyes and making your ears jealous.

It's not the effects, the softs, the gadgets that make us a better musician.
It is the regular work on oneself, the harmonic vocabulary and the musical culture. That I can share.

Jamtaba can be a good in the future if it does not disrupt the Ninbot servers and does not create sectarianism software user.

No interest to see the faces of tired, depressive people, soul, drugged, porn ...
And it is probably for the video that the bandwidth of the server Ninbot is disrupted and that jamtaba lowers the volumes to pass the video. NO ENOUGH ! :(

Luckily, I play live with bands outside. A lot of musician like me will pay to play in real time. This is the future in my opinion
Give your opinions positives or negatives …….!?

I'll add my experience with

I'll add my experience with Jamtaba so far, maybe relevant, maybe not. Latest version is stable for me (Windows 7 32-bit).

Doublebass informed me that my levels were low, and I realized that "my" fader in Jamtaba actually affects my send level. It is -12dB by default which I didn't realize at first and you need to activate +12dB boost to have Jamtaba transmit at the same level as your input is. The default (-12dB) is probably good for loud guitars. Drums seem to need +12dB to not get drowned out.

I logged into an empty room and listened back to it through my smartphone's browser (with delay, yes) to find out that the fader (and pad) actually affects send level. The multitracks are unaffected I think, so that threw me off initially.

When loading the resulting multitrack projects, there is a few millisecond gaps between intervals, seems like a bug.

Some guys transmit "dead channels", for example 2 stereo channels and only send audio on one pair. Maybe this affects server load, (I'm guessing) and could create disconnection for some.

This is what I have noticed.

"Microsoft, Facebook and the

"Microsoft, Facebook and the company who will run it have laids the cable have just finished laying a underwater cable from virginia to spain, with somit like 179TB throughput.
But this could mean much much lower pings from europe to america's and beyond."

Andy, That is what I do for a living (lay subsea cable systems). I work as Chief Mate and Master of ships that lay and repair cables. My company is involved in laying the cable system you mentioned, and many others as well.

I also like Jamtaba very much. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it to work reliably. I get audio breakups which when trying to play music is clearly a showstopper. I have returned to using reaNinjam because i works. I am hopeful that future versions of Jamtaba will fix the audio issues as I would like to be able to use it. I just can't in it's present buggy configuration.

You may be right about part

You may be right about part of your Andy approach, but I think rather that snobs are those who despise others with their technical and computer considerations.
Since I came here the discussions of taverns have evolved towards hardware, Linux or Windows, 95, 98, XP, my PC is stronger, my software is better, and ME I master software.
You master all your daws, your vst, your loops with a mouse in hand, but you do not realize the boredom and the anthropy of the musical formats and videos that you propose. Few play an instrument today!
Sorry I love music, in all its forms but your discussions are uninteresting and you place yourself above others with your science.
If the ping does "prout" no interest, and if we do not have the right version LOL we are stupid. If we talk about his passion for music and guitar we are snobbish. This is the message you are giving! received 5/5 without crashes thx

So I leave you between your debates. I will not carry you back your hacks which disrupt the jams because your vanity throws you in a pack against me.

I am happy not to be like you !
Perhaps on a computer forum I could discuss interchangeability of scales. LOL
for fun in 2013 already Computer engineer
Bye from this thread

Microsoft, Facebook and the

Microsoft, Facebook and the company who will run it have laids the cable have just finished laying a underwater cable from virginia to spain, with somit like 179TB throughput.
But this could mean much much lower pings from europe to america's and beyond.

If the pings get low enough then realtime jamming could just be possible.

I would say that possibly max channels might have to be set to 1 channel so with video that makes 2, if this is needed maybe Eli can limited it Jamtaba side.
But until there is enough users in one server with video all on we won't know if it will have an effect.

I think your being a bit of a Music Snob here Bilos, when people are music snobbery it feels like someone is knocking my front door to tell me their god is better than someone else's and I should follow them or ill burn in hell.
Then you ask them to explain why, then when they start contradicting themselves and you point it out they want to leave your front door.

Everyone just loves to throw stones at each other, just to see what happens. :S

> the accented characters

> the accented characters French :) I transmit are illegible at the reception except for users reaninjam!

Bilos. This issue was solved last year and had to do with reaninjam specific coding. See here:

https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=1697951#post1697951

And here:

https://github.com/elieserdejesus/JamTaba/issues/441

You're probably using a very old reaper version. Just update to last one and problem solved.

> Also some user jamtaba told me that he was cutting the camera because otherwise the software crashes. :(

Yes. There is an issue when jamtaba decodes video frames that makes it crash:

https://github.com/elieserdejesus/JamTaba/issues/909

Hopefully next jamtaba release will work as expected. Thx for the feedback.

I exchange some tests with

I exchange some tests with users jamtaba and reaninjam

There is an improvement on blocked chat between ninjamer and reaninjam, as well as in the lounge.

Nevertheless the accented characters French :) I transmit are illegible at the reception except for users reaninjam!

On reception I get cleanly from reaninjam and corrupt accents from a Frenchman on jamtaba.

Also some user jamtaba told me that he was cutting the camera because otherwise the software crashes. :(

For your information just facts

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I came here to resport my

I came here to resport my experience of usage:
-every hour there is crash and need to restart reaper
-chat lag
-radom disconetion from survers with a lot of peolpe disconet same time...
I love this new software but there is some things to solve some problems beacuse he is more instable and need to be fix like a beta need allways.
For me there is no problem came here and report the problems and to thanks elisier work!!!

Bilos. I tested the ninbot

Bilos. I tested the ninbot lounge chat for 10+ minutes using Jamtaba and the old ninjam client and I got no disconnection form the lounge nor either client. Maybe unstable internet connection of those users?

Thanks to answer M.Jon, this

Thanks to answer M.Jon,
this evening a lot of users in the lounge ninbot.com:2049 trying to chat on the active lounge.
Some crashes and obligation to reconnect jamers appeared
I noticed at the maximum users a cascade of disconnection like dominoes.
Now to know who uses jamtaba and who use reaninjam?
How many anonymous people in the lounge?
I notice that the Ninbot servers lack stability and reliability since the arrival of the new jamtaba.
Incompatibility of use between reaninjam and jamtaba?
100% reaninjam with my favorite users, there is no trouble!
why mixing the two causes crashes?

I'll give you my opinion

I'll give you my opinion with regards to some of the points you mention Bilos.

>Chat blocked and friends on lounge despit to reload each 30"

Chat block is a tool that works locally on each jamtaba client. There's no possible way this feature can have any effect on the lounge chat which is provided directly by ninbot servers.

If the lounge chat is being disconnected every 30", that has nothing to do with jamtaba nor any other client.

>Levels of users jamtaba to low (-25dB) >> I seem to loud (-12dB).

I've noticed too that some reaninjam users sound a bit loud lately. As you know Jamtaba is developed and tested by very few people and sometimes bugs appear. We can test this and see if the levels are not sent correctly. Don't worry. As soon as I have time I will do the testing myself and report it.

> I am not naive, it is probably for the video that the bandwidth of the server Ninbot is disrupted and that jamtaba lowers the volumes to pass the video.

This is probably not the case. The video stream is completely independent from the audio channels and it's discarded by other clients.

thank you Bilos for reporting possible problems.

M.Gaz I love John

M.Gaz I love John McLaughlin, I appreciate your reference
But with Paco de Lucia and Al Di Meola it's better
A lot of stuff to learn in Flamenco. Awesome :)

Mediterranian Sun Dance Live

Jon I already said in the

Jon I already said in the header!
A lot of test from Elieser and users making a lot of perturbation on servers scrashed; Enough !
Chat blocked and friends on lounge despit to reload each 30”
Random disconnections,
Levels of users jamtaba to low (-25dB) >> I seem to loud (-12dB).
Users coming on lounge create a random disconnection of others, and me .
Users from jamtaba not qualify on jam change BPM and BPI during a session! Not acceptable !
Some idiots mute my channel automatically and do not hear that it is me who plays the pattern chords for others do nice solo !
I am not naive, it is probably for the video that the bandwidth of the server Ninbot is disrupted and that jamtaba lowers the volumes to pass the video.
ENOUGH !
What do Ninbot's administrators think?

What disadvantages on the

What disadvantages on the server? Each client works independently from each other. Can you please explain what is the problem you face, Bilos?

You were offering to give me

You were offering to give me a music theory lesson, which I need?
I think you would benefit from the book suggestion I posted!

* I offer my knowledge of scale harmony and culture of great music. Neoclassical, Classical, Pop, Gypsy swing, Bossa.
* I remain a grumpy to your eyes and making your ears jealous.
* Come share your knowledge on one of my BT : "Paganini Rules Cycle of 5th" where I shred and make arpeggios at BPM 160

Something to chill you out Mr Bilos ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdGYBI1fBhs

I am very calm and glad to

I am very calm and glad to meet you again Mr. Unfretted.
The thread has been removed but not the disadvantages of jamtaba on the server.
In his post Elieser announced crashes officially! LOL :)
I do not like the way things have been done at all ?!
And You? (not on me pls)

Please calm down, more than

Please calm down, more than enough was said earlier, that´s why the thread was removed.

Please calm down, more than

Please calm down, more than enough was said earlier, that´s why the thread was removed.

I had been elegant not to

I had been elegant not to quote all your intervention in the lounge, but you are in contradiction with yourself.
I quote you "I don't make direct remarks about peoples music, styles or abilities!"☹

Here is the continuation ☹:
Gaz@lounge: I see I'm wasting my time, maybe I could give you a music theory lesson sometime.
Gaz@lounge: You music theory is always very incomplete
peter@32.209.43.x> any herb for the fine men?
Bilos@81.53.31.x> come on I wait for exchange
peter@32.209.43.x> who drink your wine
Bilos@81.53.31.x> I have a lot of vocabulary to share
peter@32.209.43.x> the mendacity
Gaz@lounge: try reading a book called, Fundamentals of Musical Composition, it will move you away from the ABC of the circle of 5ths
Gaz@lounge: have a nice day!
Bilos@81.53.31.x> you are stucked on pentas, I will show you to play different

Thank you for your advice M.Gaz. Come share your knowledge on one of my BT : "Paganini Rules Cycle of 5th" where I shred and make arpeggios at BPM 160

Else Your opinion on jamtaba is perhaps as false as your thought

You seem to have edited this

You seem to have edited this for your own means ..

Such as, the part were you said 'I make a noise?'
And, the part about that I 'only play penta scales'.

I don't make direct remarks about peoples music, styles or abilities!

I think Jamtaba is brilliant, that is my opinion and I think the software is perfect for the community with features such as auto-translate. If you don't like it, fall behind and don't use it, simple!!



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