New Live Venue

Synthany, I just finished setting up and testing http://ohmstudio.com with REAPER and ReaNINJAM.
Basically OHM is running on ReaASIO then is pulled into a track on REAPER, so an OHM Project could be played live into NINJAM, and setup like this u can sync dead on to the met easily.
The other thing using ReaASIO for OHM is then your own input track on REAPER, or if you mute the met on NINJAM then solo someone, they can both be record realtime in OHM, and syncing OHM to NINJAM should be instant start when you press space or click play.

This method is a bit similar to how I have Cubase running with REAPER and record people live then better mix, add fx if needed and EQ a little sometimes. But for live presentation you could use some pre-made stuff with live stuff, mix mashup and others stuff. You could put this audio into NINJAM or not and just use it to better entertain listeners.
You would become almost a realtime masher live looper.

I think a lot of the time NINJAM is not pleasing to the ear for listeners, so then when live people have to be constantly mixed, lowered, upped, panned and stuff. I've had to do similar when streaming jams live else it sounds a mess but then trying to keep all with out muting anyone can offend some people who need muting, if they say tune in or listen later to any recordings.
But using NINJAM as a live source and creating your own stuff from NINJAM is not likely to offend someone as you haven't muted them, what they were doing just wasn't right for what you was making.

Andy, I think you're spot on. To use an open NINJAM channel for a live jam you'd need someone purely to "moderate" the channel and do the hard work of mixing it down for the front of house feed. I don't think it possible to concentrate on both the FoH and NINJAM, though an experienced desk tech might be able to manage the mayhem of NINJAM on top of the tranquillity of a live venue jam..!!

Whether to introduce pre-recorded material for this is really a different issue (and I would suggest there are probably less crash-prone ways of doing it than from a computer: e.g. cut a DVD with the audio on and play it through the mixing desk...). However, I think mixing up Reaper, NINJAM and OhmStudio is a pretty cool idea. I'm mostly interested in terms of getting audio into OhmStudio that wouldn't otherwise be available (i.e. Ohm->ReaRoute->Reaper->Audio Out; Reaper->NINJAM->Reaper->ReaRoute->Ohm; no Ohm to NINJAM route to avoid feedback). You can try similar things with llcon (which, of course, isn't as much fun as NINJAM).

Synthany, I guess your "evening" is my "well past midnight" -- but I look forward, as ever, to hearing about the outcome and wish you well! :)

-- Peter

Thanks Guys! I appreciate your feedback and will keep you posted.

I wouldn't mind going live via Ninjam at that café thing. Could be cool with some video projection via webcam, of the participating musicians, so that the audience also can see that it's live.

I've been thinking about doing something like this, but outside and probably all battery powered. I have, however, not found the level on ninjam & ninbot to be consistent enough, for me to take the idea further.

Perhaps there are some interesting private servers happening, where the musicians are more professional in their way of going about a jam?...anyone know, please chime in.

I don't personally find the whole ohm + ninjam thing that interesting. To me, the whole idea get's too much over in another ball park which is pre-recorded, playback stuff.

I think the interesting thing, especially to an audience, is when things are actually live, things are being created on the spot.

Obviously, you'd need someone sitting at a computer, at the event, that takes care of the volume levels etc. and you need serious, skilled musicians.

Let's here more about your plans, if you go further with it.

Happy vibes is what makes good jams, when people are in with negative vibes jams just never develop.
I'm always happy to try anything, but what I find annoying most is someone come sin and with in say 2 mins slagging the music being jammed.
Then there be saying lets do another one, then all stop, then they don't start nothing just further complain about it's not to their stratification then they leave and everyone gets back to having fun.

Even before when Synths been doing this sort of thing ya can get someone in trolling and sitting trying to upset and piss people off, then there is literally not a note played.
When people come in and complain and won't stop till they stop the music I just stop till they leave then resume when there gone, then try to avoid them if I can.

One thing I would say though, if someone has an instrument and want to play it then play it, not sit playing nothing then soon as someone else starts playing the instrument they get annoyed and start with negative vibes.
I'd say to anyone if your not playing and someone else starts playing the same instrument as you then tough, be quicker, being in a server first don't give someone the right to play that instrument, even when there not playing.
Plus 2 or more of every instrument can play, long as there all playing to the same thing we can adjust, pan etc. our end.
There public servers so all got a right to pay but its definitely not cool and totally rude to start playing other keys other all else playing, fair do's if just a few people n00dling but not when people jamming.

Anyway Cheer Up Torb, come in OHM when ya not getting a jam and we make some music.

Synthany,

I'm very interested in the jam and am just up the Front Range from you in Laramie ... when are you planning to do this again?

Best,

~~D.

I like this idea :)
IMO it would be nice to have a Ninbot group for this and book events just for the people in the group in a private server. In the other hand the access to the group should be easy if not automatic for anyone willing to play. This way things could be a bit under control without loosing the freshness of Ninjam's sessions.
For me it's difficult to be on a regular basis but I'd be glad to enter when I could :)
Best
Diek

The last time we did this it was a lot of fun.
I have to say though that we could hear ourselves
echo back on Synthia's mic. What she needs
is something like a Countryman mic. Super unidirectional
so you can talk and sing without feeding back to the
jammers.

Once the feedback starts you have to play blind
and just hope it sounds okay on one side :)

delayed reply - i thought i had already - sorry tom.
yes, a great suggestion about using a headset mic!
it's funny because i have two of them but didn't use
them on that last session. i will def use them forward.

looks like i will have an opportunity to do a live session
at a gallery on friday night between 6PM and 10PM MDT.
probably not online the whole time though - maybe tiptoe in/out.

is that okay with folks?